TV3′s The Nation: Antarctica and public understanding of climate change

by Bryan Walker on April 24, 2014

antarcticaA few days have passed since Lisa Owen’s interview with Antarctic scientists Chuck Kennicutt of the US and Gary Wilson of New Zealand on TV3’s The Nation but I hope it’s still worth drawing attention to. Programmes like The Nation tend to focus on immediate political excitements. It was therefore a pleasant surprise to see an interviewer who was reasonably well informed of the issues surrounding the effect of global warming on the Antarctic and who allowed the two scientists space to explain the far-reaching planetary consequences of Antarctic melting.

I won’t traverse the content of the interview here. It was familiar enough material to anyone who follows the science. The scientists were restrained and objective, almost to a fault. But their observations were stark enough. Gary Wilson observed that looking back in geological time we know that the last time carbon dioxide levels were at 400 parts per million the end solution of a prolonged period in that state was that the West Antarctic ice sheet retreated.

Beyond expressing pleasure at the quality of the interview and the fact that it was undertaken my main purpose in this post is to draw attention to the contribution of one of the panellists who subsequently discussed the interview (3 minutes in).

The panel discussion itself was worthy of the interview. Rob Fenwick underlined the crucial importance of what happens in the Antarctic, but it was the contribution of Jonathan Milne, deputy editor of the Herald on Sunday, which I want to dwell on. He said he thought his fellow panellists were underestimating the level of ignorance out there in the wider public. “I’m including myself in this. I really don’t think we know the importance and significance of Antarctica. I don’t think we know what’s happening with climate change.”

He went on to say that he thought we’re driven by our views on politics rather than the science in reaching our views on climate change. He instanced ACT members. “They’re not listening to the science. They’re listening to the politics.” His conclusion: “I think scientists have an enormous battle on their hands.”

I agree. I do not think there is widespread understanding of the science. There can’t be, for if there were we would be demanding action from our politicians, not taking our cue from them. Ever since I began to understand the magnitude of the effect our burning of fossil fuels is having and will continue to have on Earth’s climate it has seemed to me obvious that the general populace has not been given the opportunity to understand the message from the science. I’m not a scientist and I had to chase down books and publications which explained the issue. I was retired and had the time to do so as well as a lifelong habit of reading. Most people are not in this position. They depend on the news media, which by and large, at least in this country, have not so far been up to the task.

I hope Jonathan Milne goes back to his desk determined to help remedy the neglect. It’s not difficult, as The Nation’s segment illustrated. All it needs is a readiness to allow climate scientists to communicate the import of their work and a weighing of the importance of the issue which means that it is regularly and prominently in the forefront of the news.

{ 4 comments… read them below or add one }

noelfuller April 25, 2014 at 10:42 am

I have met people on whom climate change has never registered at all (untill they met me), so yes, publicity of the work of the people who know is essential.

However, the lies are mainly in the political arena – the chief coming as always from those who are richest via their shills: It is too expensive to change! Sweden has demonstrated how to change and their certification scheme enables them to take advantage of any technological developments.

Does the NZ public know anything about it? No. Do those who do seriously discuss the lessons in it for NZ – barely. We should know what works to reduce emissions. We already know that what we pretend to have doesn’t do anything.

nigelj April 25, 2014 at 11:01 am

The challenge is that the science of climate change is complicated, and relies on many strands of evidence so isn’t easy to digest. Children are learning it at school, but the older generation of decision makers are often not well informed, and are from a generation that was suspicious of academics.

They also grew up in the cold war / communist period, so are excessively suspicious of government initiatives to solve the problem. This is all a challenge for the climate science community, but education in the media must be a part of the solution.

the biofarmer April 27, 2014 at 7:55 am

Thomas , when I saw this , I immediately thought of you. I know that you’ll get a kick out of this.

PeterB April 28, 2014 at 2:45 pm

The words of that deputy editor are fundamental to our problem: “I don’t think we know what’s happening with climate change.” This is absolutely true of the public, and the media who should be informing them. Even though a slim majority of the public accept the reality of climate change, they have no real understanding of what is in store for us beyond warmer temperatures and different weather with more storms. They have no concept of the carnage and the destruction we have unlocked. I think if people actually knew what is coming down the road they would be utterly shocked, and they would demand change and it would happen. This is the great education opportunity of our times. The IPCC needs a PR/communications division. Why don’t you give that guy a phone call and suggest he takes you out for lunch so you can give him a rundown about what is actually going on? He needs to know.

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