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		<title>Comment on Hot Topic interruptus by Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 19:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome! Will look at the deals see what I can do. Thanks for letting me know. Also good on TCDC for waiving fees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! Will look at the deals see what I can do. Thanks for letting me know. Also good on TCDC for waiving fees.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hot Topic interruptus by Macro</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/hot-topic-interruptus/#comment-37784</link>
		<dc:creator>Macro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 23:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas - Thames Transition Town (T3) have arranged with s4solar to import a container load of 3 kwPV  tied to grid systems for installation around Thames at a &quot;good&quot; price. TCDC have agreed there is no need for a building permit so no cost there. :) Let us know if you know of anyone who might be interested. You can find out more at the T3 website http://www.t3connect.org.nz/ or at s4solar under the Thames deal. http://s4solar.co.nz/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas &#8211; Thames Transition Town (T3) have arranged with s4solar to import a container load of 3 kwPV  tied to grid systems for installation around Thames at a &#8220;good&#8221; price. TCDC have agreed there is no need for a building permit so no cost there. <img src='http://hot-topic.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Let us know if you know of anyone who might be interested. You can find out more at the T3 website <a href="http://www.t3connect.org.nz/" rel="nofollow">http://www.t3connect.org.nz/</a> or at s4solar under the Thames deal. <a href="http://s4solar.co.nz/" rel="nofollow">http://s4solar.co.nz/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Hot Topic interruptus by Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 08:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://hot-topic.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Hot Topic interruptus by bill</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/hot-topic-interruptus/#comment-37782</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 03:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m reminded of Chomsky&#039;s high praise; &#039;hated by all the right people&#039;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reminded of Chomsky&#8217;s high praise; &#8216;hated by all the right people&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hot Topic interruptus by Rob Taylor</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/hot-topic-interruptus/#comment-37781</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 20:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give &#039;em Hell, Thomas!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give &#8216;em Hell, Thomas!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hot Topic interruptus by Thomas</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/hot-topic-interruptus/#comment-37780</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 11:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh, not sure if I should feel sorry (for your banning) or envious ;-) 
Its in the end a time wasting distraction to engage over in the echo chambers with the ever repeating ear worms and mantras of excuses, straw men and circular referencing. Oh they are so happy if they think that they found a new crack in the veneer of reality only to realize, again and again, that its all imaginary.
As of the latest, they &#039;found&#039; the &lt;a href=&quot;www.tims.ntu.edu.tw/download/talk/20120918_2297.pdf‎&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tung and Zhou paper&lt;/a&gt;, claiming it proves that circulations and natural effects trump warming. If they at least would read the f... papers they find. There is well founded critique of the Tung/Zhou paper &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skepticalscience.com/circular-argument-blaming-warming-on-amo.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; but even if taken as fact, the Tung/Zhou paper peels out the most striking uninterrupted straight line warming trend from the graphs seen so far plus, extrapolation of the trends they see would hint to a very strong return of atmospheric warming over the next years as their oscillation signal would positively add  to the AGW trend line instead of dampening it at present.
But of cause the real Gorilla in the room is always the ocean heat content, that makes up the vast majority of the energy imbalance stored and building, above which whatever wiggle theory is applied to the air temps is a moot side show....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, not sure if I should feel sorry (for your banning) or envious <img src='http://hot-topic.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Its in the end a time wasting distraction to engage over in the echo chambers with the ever repeating ear worms and mantras of excuses, straw men and circular referencing. Oh they are so happy if they think that they found a new crack in the veneer of reality only to realize, again and again, that its all imaginary.<br />
As of the latest, they &#8216;found&#8217; the <a href="www.tims.ntu.edu.tw/download/talk/20120918_2297.pdf‎" rel="nofollow">Tung and Zhou paper</a>, claiming it proves that circulations and natural effects trump warming. If they at least would read the f&#8230; papers they find. There is well founded critique of the Tung/Zhou paper <a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/circular-argument-blaming-warming-on-amo.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> but even if taken as fact, the Tung/Zhou paper peels out the most striking uninterrupted straight line warming trend from the graphs seen so far plus, extrapolation of the trends they see would hint to a very strong return of atmospheric warming over the next years as their oscillation signal would positively add  to the AGW trend line instead of dampening it at present.<br />
But of cause the real Gorilla in the room is always the ocean heat content, that makes up the vast majority of the energy imbalance stored and building, above which whatever wiggle theory is applied to the air temps is a moot side show&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hot Topic interruptus by Rob Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 10:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh dear, oh dear (sob), I&#039;ve been banned - yet again - from that fountainhead of ignorance and superstition, the Climate Conversation Group, presumably for the following comments:

Richard Treadgold, when I visit this site, my thoughts turn to poetry; specifically, William Blake, “London”, second verse:

    “In every cry of every Man,
    In every Infants cry of fear,
    In every voice: in every ban,
    The &lt;b&gt;mind-forg’d&lt;/b&gt; manacles I hear”

You and your ilk wear your tawdry predjudice and ignorance like a badge of honour; amusing, but also rather sad, like this Monty Python skit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EI7p2p1QJI

and

Mathturbating again, Richard Cumming?

    Mathturbation: What pseudoscientists, cranks and charlatans use to “prove” their self-indulgent theories. 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mathturbation


Of course, Treadgold has no problem with such measured comments as:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr Renowden and his silly, poisonous, venal and highly selective blog &lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/05/renowden-a-scaring-warmist/#comment-198944

Well, Mr. Treadgold, at least we aren&#039;t hypocrites...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, oh dear (sob), I&#8217;ve been banned &#8211; yet again &#8211; from that fountainhead of ignorance and superstition, the Climate Conversation Group, presumably for the following comments:</p>
<p>Richard Treadgold, when I visit this site, my thoughts turn to poetry; specifically, William Blake, “London”, second verse:</p>
<p>    “In every cry of every Man,<br />
    In every Infants cry of fear,<br />
    In every voice: in every ban,<br />
    The <b>mind-forg’d</b> manacles I hear”</p>
<p>You and your ilk wear your tawdry predjudice and ignorance like a badge of honour; amusing, but also rather sad, like this Monty Python skit:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EI7p2p1QJI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EI7p2p1QJI</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Mathturbating again, Richard Cumming?</p>
<p>    Mathturbation: What pseudoscientists, cranks and charlatans use to “prove” their self-indulgent theories. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mathturbation" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mathturbation</a></p>
<p>Of course, Treadgold has no problem with such measured comments as:</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr Renowden and his silly, poisonous, venal and highly selective blog </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/05/renowden-a-scaring-warmist/#comment-198944" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/05/renowden-a-scaring-warmist/#comment-198944</a></p>
<p>Well, Mr. Treadgold, at least we aren&#8217;t hypocrites&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hot Topic interruptus by bill</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/hot-topic-interruptus/#comment-37778</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 08:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, since it&#039;s a little slow I&#039;ll tell the story of Warren Bonython, who in his first crossing of the Simpson Desert on foot (which was also the first known crossing on foot for a post-colonial) hit upon the notion of using thick and rugged old truck inner tubes to hold air-dropped caches of water.

Worked fine, except for the bit where you then have to drink water that&#039;s been sitting in a thick and rugged old truck inner tube in the sun for a week or so!

The wind boom is exactly the kind of stimulus South Australia&#039;s rural economy needs. After it becomes more and more obvious that the adopters haven&#039;t turned into cancer-riddled, weak-bladdered zombies with catatonic kids and deranged pets, and are, in fact, doing rather nicely, thank you, I think the pragmatists may well come to outnumber the hysterics. Despite the black propaganda of the anti-science crowd...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, since it&#8217;s a little slow I&#8217;ll tell the story of Warren Bonython, who in his first crossing of the Simpson Desert on foot (which was also the first known crossing on foot for a post-colonial) hit upon the notion of using thick and rugged old truck inner tubes to hold air-dropped caches of water.</p>
<p>Worked fine, except for the bit where you then have to drink water that&#8217;s been sitting in a thick and rugged old truck inner tube in the sun for a week or so!</p>
<p>The wind boom is exactly the kind of stimulus South Australia&#8217;s rural economy needs. After it becomes more and more obvious that the adopters haven&#8217;t turned into cancer-riddled, weak-bladdered zombies with catatonic kids and deranged pets, and are, in fact, doing rather nicely, thank you, I think the pragmatists may well come to outnumber the hysterics. Despite the black propaganda of the anti-science crowd&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hot Topic interruptus by noelfuller</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/hot-topic-interruptus/#comment-37777</link>
		<dc:creator>noelfuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 06:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good story. It is interesting that the townspeople are free of the poisons of the denialists. I am charmed by the guy that gets &quot;greener with each revolution&quot; of his turbine.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;There is even talk of making Snowtown a completely green-powered town from the wind farm - that would require new infrastructure but it would be a great symbolic point.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;

Re the rail drops. Those not made at regular stops did not involve slowing the train near as I recall. I&#039;m guessing this was some time in the eighties. Someone had to be good at packaging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good story. It is interesting that the townspeople are free of the poisons of the denialists. I am charmed by the guy that gets &#8220;greener with each revolution&#8221; of his turbine.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;There is even talk of making Snowtown a completely green-powered town from the wind farm &#8211; that would require new infrastructure but it would be a great symbolic point.&#8221; </i><br />
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<p>Re the rail drops. Those not made at regular stops did not involve slowing the train near as I recall. I&#8217;m guessing this was some time in the eighties. Someone had to be good at packaging.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on Hot Topic interruptus by bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 03:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Noel, my mate who cycled alongside the Indian Pacific track was told that if they flagged down to train in an emergency - outside of one of its regular halts, which is what I assume your friends were using - it would cost them several grand. Fortunately it wasn&#039;t necessary, and if you really were in trouble you&#039;d just do it, but a train that size ain&#039;t cheap to speed up or slow down!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noel, my mate who cycled alongside the Indian Pacific track was told that if they flagged down to train in an emergency &#8211; outside of one of its regular halts, which is what I assume your friends were using &#8211; it would cost them several grand. Fortunately it wasn&#8217;t necessary, and if you really were in trouble you&#8217;d just do it, but a train that size ain&#8217;t cheap to speed up or slow down!</p>
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