I’m (possibly/probably) a loser

200809NSIDCmin.pngThe National Snow & Ice Data Centre in the USA has declared that this year’s minimum Arctic sea ice extent has been reached – 4.52 million square kilometres on September 12th, only 390,000 km2 more than the record 2007 minimum (and 2.24 m km2 below the 1979-2000 average minimum). It looks as though their line may bump along the bottom of the graph for a while, so there may be some potential for that number to reduce a little. Their figure for Sept 12 is 9.4 percent above the 2007 minimum, so unless there’s some unprecedented melt over the next couple of weeks, I am prepared to accept that I have lost my bet with Malcolm (see comments here and at Poneke! here), which was based on NSIDC numbers. My cheque book is at the ready.

The situation with my other bet, with William “Stoat” Connelly, is a little less clear. It’s based on the minimum area (not extent) at Cryosphere Today. The 2007 minimum on CT’s metric was 2.92 m km2, and the lowest figure I’ve seen so far (a few days ago), was 3.004 m km2 (using this iPhone formatted graph). It’s bounced up a little since, but if we look back to the same time last year we can see that the graph stayed pretty flat until October (notice how the anomaly increases as we get further into autumn as the late start to freeze has an effect). I reckon that William is likely to win, but it’s still not certain.

[Update] CT has just posted their preliminary minimum for the year (though I can’t see a figure), with a page allowing comparison with earlier minima. Here’s this year’s minimum in context – way below the long term trend:


For some interesting commentary on the difference between satellite estimates and the reality of cruising through the ice, have a look at the most recent posts at the Swedish polar blog I linked to a few weeks ago. They’re finding the satellite data a not entirely useful guide to navigation, but only Google knows what this means…

Each time, we have been forced to take circuitous routes and it has taken 12-24 h to snirkla us out from these sjok.

Your snirkla may differ. (Magnus, help!) It’s certainly an interesting blog, well worth a peruse (there’s more about methane too).

So what can we infer from this year’s melt season? The first thing is that whether you use NSIDC or CT figures (+9.4% and +4.1% 2008 on 2007 respectively), it’s difficult to argue that there has been any substantial “recovery” of the Arctic sea ice. The 2008 minimum is the second lowest in the record, well ahead of 2005 in third place. A large part of 2007’s decline has been blamed on exceptional weather in the Arctic last summer. This year, by comparison, was cooler – but the ice still got very close to a record.

There’s also substantial evidence of dramatic changes in the ice stuck to the islands north of Canada. NASA’s Earth Observatory has an excellent in-depth look at the break-up of the ice shelves along the coast of Ellesmere Island (also at BBC, New Scientist):

On July 22, 2008, a new wave of ice shelf disintegration began and, by late August, these ice shelves had lost a total of 214 square kilometers (83 square miles). A group of researchers led by Derek Mueller at Trent University, and Luke Copland at the University of Ottawa, announced the changes in early September 2008. The Ward Hunt Ice Shelf lost a total of 42 square kilometers (16 square miles). The Serson Ice Shelf lost 122 square kilometers (47 square miles)—60 percent of its previous area. The Markham Ice Shelf, with a total area of 50 square kilometers (19 square miles) completely broke away from the Ellesmere coast.

And here’s what it looks like from space:


These NASA pictures show the ice shelf loss, but they also show the character of the offshore ice – fractured and drifting, even in July.

What odds for 2009, William and Malcolm?

Even if I lose both bets – and I expect to – the margin of my loss is small by either NSIDC or CT’s reckoning. To me, this summer does not suggest that we’re seeing some sort of recovery back towards the long term trend (which, lest we forget, is already showing a steady decline). It’s clear that the loss of ice has increased over the last three to four years, and that the nature of the ice (the thickness, amount of multi-year ice, distribution of same) has significantly changed. There will undoubtedly be a lot more news to come on what actually happened this summer (the change in sea ice volume figures will be very interesting), and if we see a warmer Arctic spring and summer in 2009, a new record could well be on the way.

Meanwhile, it’s worth reflecting on this passage from the ISSS-08 blog about life in the Siberian seas:

Friday late afternoon, in the middle of the East-Siberian pitchblack night, our ship passed Jeannette island at around 76 ° 44N and 157 ° 54E, northeast of the New Siberian Islands. Igor, our chief scientist, told us that this island was named after an earlier polar expedition at the end of the 19th century. This expedition was led by De Long, a lieutanant in the U.S. navy, and was aiming to reach the North Pole. They started in the Bering Strait (between Alaska and Siberia) to be frozen in around Wrangell island in September 1879.

The ship, named Jeannette, was transported by the ice for two years before it got crushed and sunk. Only one of the four life boats made it to the Siberian mainland, where they could spread the terrible news. The most interesting part here is that a couple of years later, pieces of the mast of the Jeannette were found on the eastcoast of Greenland (!). These findings were one of the first pieces of evidence of the transpolar ice transport, and an important reason for the famous Fridtjof Nansen to set sail with his ship Fram to explore these unknown polar ice operational. According to Igor, the Jeannette is lying only a couple of miles away from our sampling station.

Sic transit… etc.

[And for the big picture on glaciers, you can download the World Glacier Monitoring Service’s new 2008 report here. It’s 25.9MB of icy goodness. Great pictures for the terminally morained.]

21 thoughts on “I’m (possibly/probably) a loser”

  1. In which an actual sea ice scientist says in real time: “Questions about sea ice are welcome here.” Let us take advantage.

    P.S.: “Sic transit jeannette mundi”? Gloria will be jealous.

  2. Update on the edit function: thanks to the diligent efforts of Neto in Openhost Support, we have a working comment editor – but I’ve had to disable the shopping cart. Not that many will notice… 🙁

  3. Thanks Gareth, for the public acknowledgement of my efforts :P.

    And I must say that, for the sake of the ice caps, I’m glad you are (possible/probable) loser :-).

    Even with such a small improvement, it still is an improvement…

  4. Thanks for your gracious post Gareth. Please just send the money to women’s refuge (I trust you). But you might want to wait a couple of weeks to make absolutely sure. I’ll resist the temptation to give payback for the “candy” comment, and instead grant you a moral victory. It certainly declined more than I expected, and although I’ve won the bet I think it counts as a tick for your argument. There does seem to be a little bit of a question about whether it’s weather or climate; I will be interested to see how quickly it rebounds and, as we discussed earlier, next year will be really fascinating.

  5. Hey Malcolm
    That also was a gracious and humble acceptance of your win in this particular bet.

    We now wait for the less gracious, usual suspects, to tell us there is no problem with AGW and more, the ice age cometh!

  6. Equally gracious, malcolm. I rather picture us as a couple of Japanese men not knowing when stop to bowing to each other… 😉 And there are no winners here…

    I’ll settle up at the end of the month.

  7. So it looks like you JUST lost your bet but the fact that the ice hit second lowest record (and an August record) isn’t very exciting.

    Expect more of this happening – polar bears having to swim too far to get to the ice.

  8. Cindy :

    “So it looks like you JUST lost your bet but the fact that the ice hit second lowest record (and an August record) isn’t very exciting.”

    Are we talking since records began ? 1979 ?

    Anyway this just in :

    Sea surface temperatures along the Alaska Chukchi and Beaufort Sea coasts are 2 to 8 degrees Celsius colder this year than at the same time last year. Significant ice will begin developing along the Alaska coast north of 70n within the next 10 to 14 days.


    As for the poor polar bears. Save it Cindy. This reminds me of Gore’s ‘infamous’ bears on bergs image he used to mislead and tug at the heart strings of people to further his propaganda.

    And I do love those bears as much as the next guy but if it comes to being thrust into economic destituion just to save our furry friends, I’m sorry Cindy but let’em drown.

  9. “And I do love those bears as much as the next guy but if it comes to being thrust into economic destituion just to save our furry friends, I’m sorry Cindy but let’em drown.”

    Think canaries, Bat.

  10. Carol :

    Well the JW’s also thought the world would end back in the late 70’s or early 80’s.

    Also, I’m not sure whether you were trying to impress others here or just make yourself feel articulative, but a “please explain” would have sufficed. I mean who really talks like that anyway ??

  11. if it comes to being thrust into economic destituion just to save our furry friends, I’m sorry Cindy but let’em drown.

    What is it with this quasi-religious belief that we’re going to be thrust into economic destitution if we do something to restrain climate change? The evidence suggests the economic destitution will come from doing nothing.

    But then you don’t appear to accept the evidence if it doesn’t support your world view.

  12. Climate change denier – definition:

    Someone who is certain (just certain!) that any action taken to arrest climate change will lead to economic destitution – despite the complete absence of any evidence supporting this – while at the same time demanding still more proof – despite the mountains that already exist – of climate change’s existence.

  13. “And I do love those bears as much as the next guy but if it comes to being thrust into economic destituion just to save our furry friends, I’m sorry Cindy but let’em drown.”

    I’m all for letting the bears on Wall St drown.


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