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		<title>By: StephenR</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/with-friends-like-these/#comment-5337</link>
		<dc:creator>StephenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There, fixed that for youâ€¦&lt;/i&gt;

Much obliged. I expect he makes much of the fact that there are x number of footnotes, and I also expect that this will resonate with a few - doesn&#039;t have to &#039;win&#039;, but creating doubt is enough.  I don&#039;t expect he has a financial interest to defend though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There, fixed that for youâ€¦</i></p>
<p>Much obliged. I expect he makes much of the fact that there are x number of footnotes, and I also expect that this will resonate with a few &#8211; doesn&#8217;t have to &#8216;win&#8217;, but creating doubt is enough.  I don&#8217;t expect he has a financial interest to defend though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/with-friends-like-these/#comment-5335</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; plenty of credible sources (like the Douglass et al paper) which are interpreted in all manner of &lt;strong&gt;highly creative&lt;/strong&gt; waysâ€¦&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There, fixed that for you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> plenty of credible sources (like the Douglass et al paper) which are interpreted in all manner of <strong>highly creative</strong> waysâ€¦</p></blockquote>
<p>There, fixed that for you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laurence</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/with-friends-like-these/#comment-5334</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R2D2, I totally agree on the freedom of speech issue and ones right to protest but you do have to wonder whatâ€™s going on with this infiltration malarkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R2D2, I totally agree on the freedom of speech issue and ones right to protest but you do have to wonder whatâ€™s going on with this infiltration malarkey.</p>
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		<title>By: StephenR</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/with-friends-like-these/#comment-5333</link>
		<dc:creator>StephenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Noted: Wishart relies on Ken Ring as a credible source.&lt;/i&gt;

Heh. However I would &lt;i&gt;guess&lt;/i&gt; that amongst that there are plenty of credible sources (like the Douglass et al paper) which are interpreted in all manner of ways...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Noted: Wishart relies on Ken Ring as a credible source.</i></p>
<p>Heh. However I would <i>guess</i> that amongst that there are plenty of credible sources (like the Douglass et al paper) which are interpreted in all manner of ways&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: R2D2</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/with-friends-like-these/#comment-5332</link>
		<dc:creator>R2D2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I heard about that (Lauremce article on Plane Stupid protester), pretty disgusting. 

I disagree with what what they were saying (Plane Stupid), but stand by there right to say it.

Police should only investigate where a crime has been committed (of course), and not profile those who they EXPECT to commit crimes (as has been done here and abroad).

And its even worse when they investigate protesters, protesting is a basic human right.  

Whats even worse than this is the reports of police provocateurs at the G20 summit in London (ie Police want to break up a peaceful protest so they send in provocateurs to start pushing causing havoc, creating enough of a scene so that on TV it looks as if the protesters are the bad ones and the police are only breaking up a violent scene)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I heard about that (Lauremce article on Plane Stupid protester), pretty disgusting. </p>
<p>I disagree with what what they were saying (Plane Stupid), but stand by there right to say it.</p>
<p>Police should only investigate where a crime has been committed (of course), and not profile those who they EXPECT to commit crimes (as has been done here and abroad).</p>
<p>And its even worse when they investigate protesters, protesting is a basic human right.  </p>
<p>Whats even worse than this is the reports of police provocateurs at the G20 summit in London (ie Police want to break up a peaceful protest so they send in provocateurs to start pushing causing havoc, creating enough of a scene so that on TV it looks as if the protesters are the bad ones and the police are only breaking up a violent scene)</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/with-friends-like-these/#comment-5331</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>16 chapters down. Noted: Wishart relies on Ken Ring as a credible source.

(Retires to bed with aching sides...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16 chapters down. Noted: Wishart relies on Ken Ring as a credible source.</p>
<p>(Retires to bed with aching sides&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Laurence</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/with-friends-like-these/#comment-5330</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, bad link you may have to cut and paste from properties. Or our fearless leader might fix it or I could try again. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/24/strathclyde-police-plane-stupid-recruit-spy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, bad link you may have to cut and paste from properties. Or our fearless leader might fix it or I could try again. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/24/strathclyde-police-plane-stupid-recruit-spy" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/24/strathclyde-police-plane-stupid-recruit-spy</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/with-friends-like-these/#comment-5329</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve finished the first 7 chapters of Air Con. Resisting the urge to throw it into the fire has been the hard part, and pacifying &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumpole_of_the_Bailey&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SWMBO&lt;/a&gt; who&#039;s irritated by all the harrumphing and expostulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve finished the first 7 chapters of Air Con. Resisting the urge to throw it into the fire has been the hard part, and pacifying <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumpole_of_the_Bailey" rel="nofollow">SWMBO</a> who&#8217;s irritated by all the harrumphing and expostulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurence</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/with-friends-like-these/#comment-5328</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iâ€™ve no problem with the airing of alternative views, but this came across as more like cash for comment rather than an interview. It may have been better placed on Ramona Kovals show. I would have thought that at least a couple of hard questions would have been in order.  Whatâ€™s interesting though is that there has been a fair bit of wailing in the press here recently claiming the skeptics are being shut down on any public airing of their views.  Interesting in light of the Sound of silence post and this.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/24/strathclyde-police-plane-stupid-recru.it-spy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™ve no problem with the airing of alternative views, but this came across as more like cash for comment rather than an interview. It may have been better placed on Ramona Kovals show. I would have thought that at least a couple of hard questions would have been in order.  Whatâ€™s interesting though is that there has been a fair bit of wailing in the press here recently claiming the skeptics are being shut down on any public airing of their views.  Interesting in light of the Sound of silence post and this.<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/24/strathclyde-police-plane-stupid-recru.it-spy" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/24/strathclyde-police-plane-stupid-recru.it-spy</a></p>
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		<title>By: R2D2</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/with-friends-like-these/#comment-5327</link>
		<dc:creator>R2D2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great interview thanks Laurence.

Notice how he made sure he put everything really really simply? Must be used to people&#039;s eyes glassing over every time they here non AGW points of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great interview thanks Laurence.</p>
<p>Notice how he made sure he put everything really really simply? Must be used to people&#8217;s eyes glassing over every time they here non AGW points of view.</p>
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