“My own view is that the elections in USA and NZ shows the death of the white, evangelical voter which have traditionally lined up on anti-abortion, pro-‘spare the rod and spoil the child’ and “global warming is bunkum” issues.”

Dr. Michael Kidd: The Family Party

What a joke!

Try this:

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/reviewofbooks_article/5956/

In addition the amount of money spent by oil companies, of which Exxon is the most well known, in funding lobby groups to delay any effective efforts to mitigate emissions your theory that big oil is behind a “AGW conspiracy” so as to get move into and dominate the renewable energy sector seems tenuous.

>I don’t follow the argument. We propose policies that will discourage the use of their products by promoting energy efficiency and renewables and we are supporting big oil?

Try putting whatever passes for your mind into gear. Finding an pumping oil is a highly competitive and risky business. Milking the taxpayer for subsidies is money for jam. Big oil is smart enough to see that even if you and the rest of the useful idiots are not.

My take on the minuscule amount invested by big oil in renewables is it’s mostly greenwashing and, maybe maybe some realisation that they are in a dieing business due to CC and Peak oil. So it could be part of their exit strategy, but if so it is pretty half hearted.

Doug

They put their money into wind farms etc, funded useful mega-idiots like Al Gore

Smart move I’d say, maybe there’s a buck to be made in being green after all.

One out of how many? Nit picking is all you are good for.

What? Are you seriously going to defend scholarly incompetence? You linked a review article, which means that to assess the actual science I have to look at the citations. The Idso reference was the second one I looked at.

Have you checked the references out to see if the scientific evidence matches the assertions? Or did you just take that on faith?

You might care to read this:

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/reviewofbooks_article/5956/

There are far more important issues for humanity than carbon dioxide. The most important is overpopulation. If you care to get stuck into that I would be on your side. The loss of rainforest and the ever increasing areas of concrete do have an effect on climate through the change in albedo. But that is not the principal problem. Britain is now facing shortages in water supplies. These will get worse as the population increases. As population density increases there is increasing friction between people exacerbated by racial and cultural differences. When I came to this country fifty years ago it had a population of about 2.5 million. It had a standard of living among the top three in the world. Crime was a fraction of present levels. Criminal gangs did not exist. Most did not even bother to lock their houses when they went out. There was no armed offenders squad and the police were unarmed. I could carry a .303 rifle down Willis Street or onto a NAC DC3 without comment. Now we have a population of 4 million. Our standard of living is well down the list. Crime is rampant. Restrictions abound etc etc.