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		<title>By: 123blogblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; bikefix Review Update: USE Sumo Carbon seatpost</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, DW. 
This field of study takes the concept of &quot;climate sensitivity&quot; to a whole new level...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, DW.<br />
This field of study takes the concept of &#8220;climate sensitivity&#8221; to a whole new level&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dappledwater</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, yeah I remember reading that article, a while back. The Pyle &amp; Mason study (volcanic seasonality) pdf is available here:

http://web.cocc.edu/breynolds/classes/UO_Geol_353/seasonality%20of%20eruptions.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, yeah I remember reading that article, a while back. The Pyle &amp; Mason study (volcanic seasonality) pdf is available here:</p>
<p><a href="http://web.cocc.edu/breynolds/classes/UO_Geol_353/seasonality%20of%20eruptions.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://web.cocc.edu/breynolds/.....ptions.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there is evidence that AGW may increase the incidence of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. Here is a slightly abridged New Scientist article (sorry, no link as subscription required):

Climate change may trigger earthquakes and volcanoes
23 September 2009 by Richard Fisher

FAR from being the benign figure of mythology, Mother Earth is short-tempered and volatile. So sensitive in fact, that even slight changes in weather and climate can rip the planet&#039;s crust apart, unleashing the furious might of volcanic eruptions, earthquakes and landslides.

That&#039;s the conclusion of the researchers who got together last week in London at the conference on Climate Forcing of Geological and Geomorphological Hazards. It suggests climate change could tip the planet&#039;s delicate balance and unleash a host of geological disasters. 

Evidence of a link between climate and the rumblings of the crust has been around for years, but only now is it becoming clear just how sensitive rock can be to the air, ice and water above. &quot;You don&#039;t need huge changes to trigger responses from the crust,&quot; says Bill McGuire of University College London (UCL), who organised the meeting. &quot;The changes can be tiny.&quot;

Among the various influences on the Earth&#039;s crust, from changes in weather to fluctuations in ice cover, the oceans are emerging as a particularly fine controller. Simon Day of the University of Oxford, McGuire and Serge Guillas, also at UCL, have shown how subtle changes in sea level may affect the seismicity of the East Pacific Rise, one of the fastest-spreading plate boundaries.

The researchers focused on the Easter microplate - the tectonic plate that lies beneath the ocean off the coast of Easter Island - because it is relatively isolated from other faults. This makes it easier to distinguish changes in the plate caused by climate systems from those triggered by regional rumbles. Since 1973, the arrival of El Niño every few years has correlated with a greater frequency of underwater quakes between magnitude 4 and 6.

The team is confident that the two are linked. El Niño raises the local sea level by a few tens of centimetres, and they believe the extra water weight may increase the pressure of fluids in the pores of the rock beneath the seabed. This might be enough to counteract the frictional force that holds the slabs of rock in place, making it easier for faults to slip. &quot;The changes in sea level are tiny,&quot; says Day. &quot;A small additional perturbation can have a substantial effect.&quot;

Small ocean changes can also influence volcanic eruptions, says David Pyle of the University of Oxford. His study of eruptions over the past 300 years with Ben Mason of the University of Cambridge and colleagues reveals that volcanism varies with the seasons. The team found that there are around 20 per cent more eruptions worldwide during the northern hemisphere&#039;s winter than the summer (Journal of Geophysical Research, DOI: 10.1029/2002JB002293). The reason may be that global sea level drops slightly during the northern hemisphere&#039;s winter. Because there is more land in the northern hemisphere, more water is locked up as ice and snow on land than during the southern hemisphere&#039;s winter.

The vast majority of the world&#039;s most active volcanoes are within a few tens of kilometres of the coast (see map). This suggests the seasonal removal of some of the ocean&#039;s weight at continental margins as sea level drops could be triggering eruptions around the world, says Pyle.

The suggestion that some volcanoes erupt when sea levels drop does not necessarily mean that sea levels rising under climate change will suppress volcanism. In Alaska, Mount Pavlof erupts more often in the winter months, and previous research by Steve McNutt of the Alaska Volcano Observatory puts this down to a local sea level rise of 30 centimetres every winter due to low air pressure and high storm winds. Pavlof&#039;s location means that the extra weight of the adjacent sea could be squeezing magma towards the surface.

In other regions, additional ocean weight at continental margins as sea levels rise could bend the crust, reducing compressional conditions, says McGuire. Magma may then find it easier to reach the surface at adjacent volcanoes.

All these examples may seem contradictory, but the crucial point is that any change in sea level may alter regional stresses at continental margins enough to trigger eruptions in a volcano already primed to erupt, he says.

Small changes in rainfall can also trigger volcanic eruptions. In 2001, a major eruption of the Soufrière Hills volcano on the Caribbean island of Montserrat was set in motion by particularly heavy rainfall. This destabilised the volcano&#039;s dome enough for it to collapse and unleash magma within. Now it seems even typical tropical rain showers could trigger an eruption. And climate models suggest that many regions, including parts of the tropics, are likely to get wetter with climate change.

Adrian Matthews of the University of East Anglia, UK, and colleagues measured the minute-by-minute response of Montserrat&#039;s volcano after more than 200 bouts of precipitation over three years. The team found that these events, which Matthews says were typical of tropical weather, were followed by two days of increased volcanic activity.

A rainy day increased the likelihood of dome collapse from 1.5 per cent to 16 per cent. &quot;It wouldn&#039;t have to be spectacularly heavy rainfall,&quot; says Matthews. &quot;You don&#039;t have to have a hurricane.&quot; (Journal of Volcanology and Geothermal Research, DOI: 10.1016/j.jvolgeores.2009.05.010)

Perhaps the greatest geological hazards during climate change will be the result of melting ice sheets. Apart from the risk that loose sediments exposed by melted ice could slip into the sea as tsunami-generating landslides, the removal of heavy ice could also trigger volcanic eruptions. &quot;Even thinning of a few tens of metres could make a difference,&quot; says Andrew Russell of the University of Newcastle in the UK.

For example, Iceland&#039;s Vatnajökull ice cap sits over a plate boundary and several volcanoes. That ice is likely to disappear within the next two centuries. &quot;If that happens you&#039;ll get rid of an awful lot of weight that will allow an increase in volcanic activity,&quot; says Russell. In the wake of the last ice age, volcanism was up to 30 times greater in northern Iceland compared with today (Earth Surface Processes and Landforms, DOI: 10.1002/esp.1811).

Icy eruptions could reverberate round the world. In 1783, the Icelandic volcano Laki sent a sulphurous smog over Europe, plunging it into an extreme winter that killed thousands.

For now, it is unclear just how much climate change will affect the frequency and intensity of quakes and eruptions, says McGuire, because Earth&#039;s sensitivity to climate is only now emerging. There is not yet enough data to build predictive climate models linking the two systems. But it&#039;s crucial that we consider just how easily our actions could provoke the planet, he argues. &quot;It&#039;s serious science, not scaremongering.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there is evidence that AGW may increase the incidence of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. Here is a slightly abridged New Scientist article (sorry, no link as subscription required):</p>
<p>Climate change may trigger earthquakes and volcanoes<br />
23 September 2009 by Richard Fisher</p>
<p>FAR from being the benign figure of mythology, Mother Earth is short-tempered and volatile. So sensitive in fact, that even slight changes in weather and climate can rip the planet&#8217;s crust apart, unleashing the furious might of volcanic eruptions, earthquakes and landslides.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the conclusion of the researchers who got together last week in London at the conference on Climate Forcing of Geological and Geomorphological Hazards. It suggests climate change could tip the planet&#8217;s delicate balance and unleash a host of geological disasters. </p>
<p>Evidence of a link between climate and the rumblings of the crust has been around for years, but only now is it becoming clear just how sensitive rock can be to the air, ice and water above. &#8220;You don&#8217;t need huge changes to trigger responses from the crust,&#8221; says Bill McGuire of University College London (UCL), who organised the meeting. &#8220;The changes can be tiny.&#8221;</p>
<p>Among the various influences on the Earth&#8217;s crust, from changes in weather to fluctuations in ice cover, the oceans are emerging as a particularly fine controller. Simon Day of the University of Oxford, McGuire and Serge Guillas, also at UCL, have shown how subtle changes in sea level may affect the seismicity of the East Pacific Rise, one of the fastest-spreading plate boundaries.</p>
<p>The researchers focused on the Easter microplate &#8211; the tectonic plate that lies beneath the ocean off the coast of Easter Island &#8211; because it is relatively isolated from other faults. This makes it easier to distinguish changes in the plate caused by climate systems from those triggered by regional rumbles. Since 1973, the arrival of El Niño every few years has correlated with a greater frequency of underwater quakes between magnitude 4 and 6.</p>
<p>The team is confident that the two are linked. El Niño raises the local sea level by a few tens of centimetres, and they believe the extra water weight may increase the pressure of fluids in the pores of the rock beneath the seabed. This might be enough to counteract the frictional force that holds the slabs of rock in place, making it easier for faults to slip. &#8220;The changes in sea level are tiny,&#8221; says Day. &#8220;A small additional perturbation can have a substantial effect.&#8221;</p>
<p>Small ocean changes can also influence volcanic eruptions, says David Pyle of the University of Oxford. His study of eruptions over the past 300 years with Ben Mason of the University of Cambridge and colleagues reveals that volcanism varies with the seasons. The team found that there are around 20 per cent more eruptions worldwide during the northern hemisphere&#8217;s winter than the summer (Journal of Geophysical Research, DOI: 10.1029/2002JB002293). The reason may be that global sea level drops slightly during the northern hemisphere&#8217;s winter. Because there is more land in the northern hemisphere, more water is locked up as ice and snow on land than during the southern hemisphere&#8217;s winter.</p>
<p>The vast majority of the world&#8217;s most active volcanoes are within a few tens of kilometres of the coast (see map). This suggests the seasonal removal of some of the ocean&#8217;s weight at continental margins as sea level drops could be triggering eruptions around the world, says Pyle.</p>
<p>The suggestion that some volcanoes erupt when sea levels drop does not necessarily mean that sea levels rising under climate change will suppress volcanism. In Alaska, Mount Pavlof erupts more often in the winter months, and previous research by Steve McNutt of the Alaska Volcano Observatory puts this down to a local sea level rise of 30 centimetres every winter due to low air pressure and high storm winds. Pavlof&#8217;s location means that the extra weight of the adjacent sea could be squeezing magma towards the surface.</p>
<p>In other regions, additional ocean weight at continental margins as sea levels rise could bend the crust, reducing compressional conditions, says McGuire. Magma may then find it easier to reach the surface at adjacent volcanoes.</p>
<p>All these examples may seem contradictory, but the crucial point is that any change in sea level may alter regional stresses at continental margins enough to trigger eruptions in a volcano already primed to erupt, he says.</p>
<p>Small changes in rainfall can also trigger volcanic eruptions. In 2001, a major eruption of the Soufrière Hills volcano on the Caribbean island of Montserrat was set in motion by particularly heavy rainfall. This destabilised the volcano&#8217;s dome enough for it to collapse and unleash magma within. Now it seems even typical tropical rain showers could trigger an eruption. And climate models suggest that many regions, including parts of the tropics, are likely to get wetter with climate change.</p>
<p>Adrian Matthews of the University of East Anglia, UK, and colleagues measured the minute-by-minute response of Montserrat&#8217;s volcano after more than 200 bouts of precipitation over three years. The team found that these events, which Matthews says were typical of tropical weather, were followed by two days of increased volcanic activity.</p>
<p>A rainy day increased the likelihood of dome collapse from 1.5 per cent to 16 per cent. &#8220;It wouldn&#8217;t have to be spectacularly heavy rainfall,&#8221; says Matthews. &#8220;You don&#8217;t have to have a hurricane.&#8221; (Journal of Volcanology and Geothermal Research, DOI: 10.1016/j.jvolgeores.2009.05.010)</p>
<p>Perhaps the greatest geological hazards during climate change will be the result of melting ice sheets. Apart from the risk that loose sediments exposed by melted ice could slip into the sea as tsunami-generating landslides, the removal of heavy ice could also trigger volcanic eruptions. &#8220;Even thinning of a few tens of metres could make a difference,&#8221; says Andrew Russell of the University of Newcastle in the UK.</p>
<p>For example, Iceland&#8217;s Vatnajökull ice cap sits over a plate boundary and several volcanoes. That ice is likely to disappear within the next two centuries. &#8220;If that happens you&#8217;ll get rid of an awful lot of weight that will allow an increase in volcanic activity,&#8221; says Russell. In the wake of the last ice age, volcanism was up to 30 times greater in northern Iceland compared with today (Earth Surface Processes and Landforms, DOI: 10.1002/esp.1811).</p>
<p>Icy eruptions could reverberate round the world. In 1783, the Icelandic volcano Laki sent a sulphurous smog over Europe, plunging it into an extreme winter that killed thousands.</p>
<p>For now, it is unclear just how much climate change will affect the frequency and intensity of quakes and eruptions, says McGuire, because Earth&#8217;s sensitivity to climate is only now emerging. There is not yet enough data to build predictive climate models linking the two systems. But it&#8217;s crucial that we consider just how easily our actions could provoke the planet, he argues. &#8220;It&#8217;s serious science, not scaremongering.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Billy T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a lot of rubbish in one posting...

&quot;One of the problems with climate change is that everyone wants certainty (eg: seas will rise 2.30744 metres, or temperature will rise exactly 4.27183C)&quot;
The only person I have ever read wanting such &#039;certainty&#039; is yourself.

Hockey stick and Al Gore - You should get the video out and watch it, you might learn something. The only &#039;hockey stick&#039; shown in the film was the unprecedented rise in CO2.

Copernicus...  You should check who was on the side of the scientific establishment in that case (and no, he wasn&#039;t burnt at all)

&quot; I’m thinking that these days its not ignorance but idiocy that leads them to their extremes. They are certainly not taking a scientific approach anyway.&quot;
Never were truer words spoken in self-reference</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lot of rubbish in one posting&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;One of the problems with climate change is that everyone wants certainty (eg: seas will rise 2.30744 metres, or temperature will rise exactly 4.27183C)&#8221;<br />
The only person I have ever read wanting such &#8216;certainty&#8217; is yourself.</p>
<p>Hockey stick and Al Gore &#8211; You should get the video out and watch it, you might learn something. The only &#8216;hockey stick&#8217; shown in the film was the unprecedented rise in CO2.</p>
<p>Copernicus&#8230;  You should check who was on the side of the scientific establishment in that case (and no, he wasn&#8217;t burnt at all)</p>
<p>&#8221; I’m thinking that these days its not ignorance but idiocy that leads them to their extremes. They are certainly not taking a scientific approach anyway.&#8221;<br />
Never were truer words spoken in self-reference</p>
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		<title>By: Billy T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sea levels have been rising for a long time, since the end of the last ice age in fact.&quot;

A bit of calculation suggests that this is not true - if the current rate of ~2mm per year had been going on for thousands of years then you&#039;re looking at 2 metres per millenium.  Historical records show that there hasn&#039;t been anywhere near that much rise in the last several thousand years (4-5m since the Greeks?).  So the current rate is certainly much faster than what has happened over the previous few thousand years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sea levels have been rising for a long time, since the end of the last ice age in fact.&#8221;</p>
<p>A bit of calculation suggests that this is not true &#8211; if the current rate of ~2mm per year had been going on for thousands of years then you&#8217;re looking at 2 metres per millenium.  Historical records show that there hasn&#8217;t been anywhere near that much rise in the last several thousand years (4-5m since the Greeks?).  So the current rate is certainly much faster than what has happened over the previous few thousand years.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can see watch/listen to Danny Glover&#039;s remarks &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2ft5JkNWJA&amp;feature=player_embedded&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; on youtube. 
Despite his rather fumbling speech it is very clear what he&#039;s saying is that climate change will leave poor Caribbean islands vulnerable to climate induced disasters in the future unless AWG is stopped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can see watch/listen to Danny Glover&#8217;s remarks <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2ft5JkNWJA&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">here</a> on youtube.<br />
Despite his rather fumbling speech it is very clear what he&#8217;s saying is that climate change will leave poor Caribbean islands vulnerable to climate induced disasters in the future unless AWG is stopped.</p>
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		<title>By: TomG</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About Danny Glover...
Perhaps you should listen to the entire telephone interview, instead of what Fox News is putting out.
Fox cut in after the interview was already under way and deliberately missed Danny&#039;s opening statements.
Fox has taken it out of context and spun it into something that it is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About Danny Glover&#8230;<br />
Perhaps you should listen to the entire telephone interview, instead of what Fox News is putting out.<br />
Fox cut in after the interview was already under way and deliberately missed Danny&#8217;s opening statements.<br />
Fox has taken it out of context and spun it into something that it is not.</p>
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		<title>By: C3P0</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/seven-feet-high-and-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-9720</link>
		<dc:creator>C3P0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;actor Danny Glover is linking the Haiti earthquake to AGW&quot;

I was thinking today it was strange I hadn&#039;t heard anyone say this, lol but it was only a matter of time! Of course the Asian Tsunami was made worse by sea level rise (yeah right), I guess the Haiti earthquake was made worse by warmer weather weakening the concrete (and here I was thinking that the only reason a 7.0 earthquake could do so much damage was the sorry state of the nation in the first place (due to a myriad of factors), interesting to look back on youtube vids of Copenhagen and see Monckton critising the conference as doing more harm than good to nations such as Haiti just a month before this happened(mentioning Haiti directly))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;actor Danny Glover is linking the Haiti earthquake to AGW&#8221;</p>
<p>I was thinking today it was strange I hadn&#8217;t heard anyone say this, lol but it was only a matter of time! Of course the Asian Tsunami was made worse by sea level rise (yeah right), I guess the Haiti earthquake was made worse by warmer weather weakening the concrete (and here I was thinking that the only reason a 7.0 earthquake could do so much damage was the sorry state of the nation in the first place (due to a myriad of factors), interesting to look back on youtube vids of Copenhagen and see Monckton critising the conference as doing more harm than good to nations such as Haiti just a month before this happened(mentioning Haiti directly))</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/seven-feet-high-and-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-9718</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry, your cherry-picking of misunderstood and/or misreported comments from particular individuals does not invalidate the science of AGW, which is not the project of any one person, but the result of centuries of collective effort to understand and predict the behaviour of earth systems.

If you are bona fide, which I doubt, there are plenty of excellent resources available for you to educate yourself with, such as

http://hot-topic.co.nz/notes-sources/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry, your cherry-picking of misunderstood and/or misreported comments from particular individuals does not invalidate the science of AGW, which is not the project of any one person, but the result of centuries of collective effort to understand and predict the behaviour of earth systems.</p>
<p>If you are bona fide, which I doubt, there are plenty of excellent resources available for you to educate yourself with, such as</p>
<p><a href="http://hot-topic.co.nz/notes-sources/" rel="nofollow">http://hot-topic.co.nz/notes-sources/</a></p>
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