Comments on: La-la Land again: Jim Hopkins gets it wrong

By: AndrewH

AndrewH — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:30:41 +0000

Suzuki wasn’t playing any games…my recollection of the interview is that he brought up the winter olympics in response to a question as to what he would say to a skeptic who points out it has been cold in New York or Europe this winter.

By: Bryan Walker

Bryan Walker — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:12:29 +0000

And Suzuki offers an accumulation of different effects, all in line with what can be expected from global warming, of which the lack of snow in Vancouver was only one. Pine beetle in Canadian forests, rising sea levels, the decimation of sockeye salmon, the migration of squid, were among the others he adduces. His alarm is well justified.

By: samv

samv — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:43:45 +0000

Accumulated Ice/Snow cover is not a weather event, it indicates longer trends than individual snowfalls – months rather than a week or two. And you start heading towards that hazy line of statistical significance. Glaciers melting, retreating snow lines, melting permafrost are not weather events but part of a trend.

By: C3P0

C3P0 — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:47:56 +0000

By using local weather as evidence (for or against) of global warming

By: Bryan Walker

Bryan Walker — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:55:15 +0000

C3Po
“Suzuki can play those games if he wants but he just insults the intelligence of his listeners.”

Suzuki is hardly playing games. He’s desperately in earnest in his appeal to the intelligence of his listeners. No insult there. I don’t quite understand how you detected one.

By: C3P0

C3P0 — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:20:45 +0000

Yeah, and what if the winter Olympics were held in the North East USA this year? Please don’t start up the whole this place is warm this place is cold argument again….. Suzuki can play those games if he wants but he just insults the intelligence of his listeners

By: noviceforsure

noviceforsure — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:09:19 +0000

Rob Taylor February 20, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Happy to oblige â€“ the short answer is, by comparing measurements of incoming (solar) radiation and outgoing (earth) radiation by both ground- , ocean- and space-based instruments

Rob
I followed the links you recommended. Thanks, very informative.

By: Kiwiiano

Kiwiiano — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:02:43 +0000

I listened to the Suzuki interview (in Safari/OSX SL) then found that there was some sort of block on the file that prevented me from Saving the MP3. A second attempt of just (right)clicking the MP3 link on the NatRad page offered the option of downloading the attached file, which worked. I have a copy just in case anyone has problems. Not sure when the links disappear from RNZ site.

By: Bryan Walker

Bryan Walker — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:27:18 +0000

Kiwiiano, thanks for drawing attention to the Suzuki interview. I would have missed it otherwise. It was a real tonic to hear him.

By: Rob Taylor

Rob Taylor — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:26:41 +0000

Suzuki lives in Vancouver, and said that there was so little snow around for the Winter Olympics that the organisers had to truck in snow from 150 miles away and spread it over hay bales laid on the ground for insulation…