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		<title>By: CobblyWorlds</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/from-russia-with-love/#comment-2800</link>
		<dc:creator>CobblyWorlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonny,

I&#039;m having a holiday, from both work and my studies. But thanks for the offer - email on way.

If I continue I&#039;ll look into your suggestion and contemporary biological activity. It&#039;s interesting that this has increased notably for 2007/2008. I can&#039;t figure out quite why - I had been pondering land warming/ocean warming or more fragmented ice. But right now I&#039;m re-reading a load of Brian Aldiss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonny,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m having a holiday, from both work and my studies. But thanks for the offer &#8211; email on way.</p>
<p>If I continue I&#8217;ll look into your suggestion and contemporary biological activity. It&#8217;s interesting that this has increased notably for 2007/2008. I can&#8217;t figure out quite why &#8211; I had been pondering land warming/ocean warming or more fragmented ice. But right now I&#8217;m re-reading a load of Brian Aldiss.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/from-russia-with-love/#comment-2787</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cobblyworlds,
Email me: sonnyw [at] optusnet.com.au and I&#039;ll forward the Nature papers if you like. (that email address will only be valid for a couple of weeks).

Sonny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cobblyworlds,<br />
Email me: sonnyw [at] optusnet.com.au and I&#8217;ll forward the Nature papers if you like. (that email address will only be valid for a couple of weeks).</p>
<p>Sonny</p>
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		<title>By: CobblyWorlds</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/from-russia-with-love/#comment-2786</link>
		<dc:creator>CobblyWorlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonny,

Were there not such interest in the Arctic and in the clathrates, what the ISSS08 team are now discovering would be the unobserved precursor to what would be found by those investigating the reason for the negative excursion in 13C that will come.

I can&#039;t access the Nature paper by Dickens that you refer to. But thanks for the links above, Modern bacterial activity looks interesting. Also thanks for the japanese publication link, if I continue studying this issue I&#039;ll be browsing there.

&quot;Got a little feelin&#039; times is gonna be bad.
Those good ol&#039; days have all a been had.
If now is where tomorrow&#039;s come to rehearse.
Today the future just got much worse.&quot;
Robert Newman, &quot;History of Oil&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonny,</p>
<p>Were there not such interest in the Arctic and in the clathrates, what the ISSS08 team are now discovering would be the unobserved precursor to what would be found by those investigating the reason for the negative excursion in 13C that will come.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t access the Nature paper by Dickens that you refer to. But thanks for the links above, Modern bacterial activity looks interesting. Also thanks for the japanese publication link, if I continue studying this issue I&#8217;ll be browsing there.</p>
<p>&#8220;Got a little feelin&#8217; times is gonna be bad.<br />
Those good ol&#8217; days have all a been had.<br />
If now is where tomorrow&#8217;s come to rehearse.<br />
Today the future just got much worse.&#8221;<br />
Robert Newman, &#8220;History of Oil&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/from-russia-with-love/#comment-2757</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  was just (finally) filing away some papers on my desk when I came across: Origin of 13C-enriched methane in the crater lake Towada,Japan (http://www.terrapub.co.jp/journals/GJ/frame/33.html (no firewall).)

I admit, I hadn&#039;t made the mental link earlier because I tend to think of Arctic and volcanoes as unrelated...except of course for the paper that Stephen cited in post 5 above: &#039;The Svensen one was a bit stats-y, but massive explosions are always interesting.&#039; 
So, you just had to  mention a high 13C in Arctic methane, didn&#039;t you?
Thanks, CobblyWorlds. I can sleep *so* much better now (finding a plausible scientific reason for a  big bang is an occupational hazard for me, I&#039;m afraid ;) )

Sonny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  was just (finally) filing away some papers on my desk when I came across: Origin of 13C-enriched methane in the crater lake Towada,Japan (<a href="http://www.terrapub.co.jp/journals/GJ/frame/33.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.terrapub.co.jp/journals/GJ/frame/33.html</a> (no firewall).)</p>
<p>I admit, I hadn&#8217;t made the mental link earlier because I tend to think of Arctic and volcanoes as unrelated&#8230;except of course for the paper that Stephen cited in post 5 above: &#8216;The Svensen one was a bit stats-y, but massive explosions are always interesting.&#8217;<br />
So, you just had to  mention a high 13C in Arctic methane, didn&#8217;t you?<br />
Thanks, CobblyWorlds. I can sleep *so* much better now (finding a plausible scientific reason for a  big bang is an occupational hazard for me, I&#8217;m afraid <img src='http://hot-topic.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>Sonny</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/from-russia-with-love/#comment-2736</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cobblyworlds,

This might supply a clue: http://www.iarc.uaf.edu/highlights/2006/arctic_ocean_methane/index.php

The key phrase being, &quot;Upon thawing they  (methane producing bacteria) restore activity and begin to produce a lot of modern methane from ancient organic matter preserved within the permafrost.
 

Sonny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cobblyworlds,</p>
<p>This might supply a clue: <a href="http://www.iarc.uaf.edu/highlights/2006/arctic_ocean_methane/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.iarc.uaf.edu/highlights/2006/arctic_ocean_methane/index.php</a></p>
<p>The key phrase being, &#8220;Upon thawing they  (methane producing bacteria) restore activity and begin to produce a lot of modern methane from ancient organic matter preserved within the permafrost.</p>
<p>Sonny</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/from-russia-with-love/#comment-2732</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CobblyWorlds

I&#039;d very much like to see  13C measurements from the  subsea  (if they took them), underwater, and atmospheric samples taken by the Yakov Smirnitsky team. Someone else must be measuring the 13C and 12C from clathrates outgas. I&#039;ll see if I can track down some research. I&#039;m quite intrigued.

Sonny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CobblyWorlds</p>
<p>I&#8217;d very much like to see  13C measurements from the  subsea  (if they took them), underwater, and atmospheric samples taken by the Yakov Smirnitsky team. Someone else must be measuring the 13C and 12C from clathrates outgas. I&#8217;ll see if I can track down some research. I&#8217;m quite intrigued.</p>
<p>Sonny</p>
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		<title>By: CobblyWorlds</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/from-russia-with-love/#comment-2685</link>
		<dc:creator>CobblyWorlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over at Stoat, I asked: 
Anyone know why the 13C content of CH4 rose in 2007/8?

My post is &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2008/09/methane_data.php#comment-1127864&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

I got no answer there. Anyone here got any ideas?

For what it&#039;s worth I think it rules out the current methane increase being due to clathrates. However that doesn&#039;t mean at some stage that the isotope fraction change won&#039;t go the other way (as clathrates outgas).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over at Stoat, I asked:<br />
Anyone know why the 13C content of CH4 rose in 2007/8?</p>
<p>My post is <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2008/09/methane_data.php#comment-1127864" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>I got no answer there. Anyone here got any ideas?</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth I think it rules out the current methane increase being due to clathrates. However that doesn&#8217;t mean at some stage that the isotope fraction change won&#8217;t go the other way (as clathrates outgas).</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/from-russia-with-love/#comment-2626</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks chaps...always good to have on record somewhere too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks chaps&#8230;always good to have on record somewhere too.</p>
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		<title>By: CobblyWorlds</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/from-russia-with-love/#comment-2625</link>
		<dc:creator>CobblyWorlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen,

http://www.cosis.net/abstracts/EGU06/05277/EGU06-J-05277.pdf
&quot;Anthropogenic methane emissions and recent trends in atmospheric methane concentrations.&quot; E Matthews 2006.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Reduced emissions from the former Soviet gas/oil industry have been implicated in the lower growth rate in the early 1990s... ...Most anthropogenic sources exhibit flat or slightly increasing/declining emissions since 1980 but the time series of fossil fuel (FF) source differs in magnitude and trend among researchers. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cosis.net/abstracts/EGU06/05277/EGU06-J-05277.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cosis.net/abstracts/EGU06/05277/EGU06-J-05277.pdf</a><br />
&#8220;Anthropogenic methane emissions and recent trends in atmospheric methane concentrations.&#8221; E Matthews 2006.</p>
<blockquote><p>Reduced emissions from the former Soviet gas/oil industry have been implicated in the lower growth rate in the early 1990s&#8230; &#8230;Most anthropogenic sources exhibit flat or slightly increasing/declining emissions since 1980 but the time series of fossil fuel (FF) source differs in magnitude and trend among researchers. </p></blockquote>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Wellington Weather</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/from-russia-with-love/#comment-2624</link>
		<dc:creator>Wellington Weather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 06:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic- Ken Ring so how did not predict the snow dump in the bottom of the South Island. What a surprise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic- Ken Ring so how did not predict the snow dump in the bottom of the South Island. What a surprise!</p>
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