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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Baldrick, but I think what got this one all the attention is when it happened (mid-winter).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Baldrick, but I think what got this one all the attention is when it happened (mid-winter).</p>
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		<title>By: baldrick</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/fractured-air/comment-page-1/#comment-4732</link>
		<dc:creator>baldrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These events not too unusual at all. This is an example of a &quot;stratospheric sudden warming&quot; (SSW), where the polar vortex over the North Pole breaks down spectacularly in late winter/early spring. It is not uncommon for stratospheric temps to rise ~50C in a day or two. These have been known about for decades, and are often triggered by big blocking events in the troposphere (associated with upward transport of energy to the stratosphere). I&#039;m not aware that there are trends observed in the timing or intensity of SSWs in the NH, though a literature search on &quot;sudden warming&quot; might turn something up. The IPCC AR4 (Ch3, page 283) discusses this briefly.
 
One interesting thing is that NO such events had ever been observed in the Southern Hemisphere - because the polar vortex is so strong, and planetary wave activity is weaker in the south than the north (less land down this way). But, a spectacular SSW event happened in September 2002, unprecedented before or since. What that signifies, who can say...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These events not too unusual at all. This is an example of a &#8220;stratospheric sudden warming&#8221; (SSW), where the polar vortex over the North Pole breaks down spectacularly in late winter/early spring. It is not uncommon for stratospheric temps to rise ~50C in a day or two. These have been known about for decades, and are often triggered by big blocking events in the troposphere (associated with upward transport of energy to the stratosphere). I&#8217;m not aware that there are trends observed in the timing or intensity of SSWs in the NH, though a literature search on &#8220;sudden warming&#8221; might turn something up. The IPCC AR4 (Ch3, page 283) discusses this briefly.</p>
<p>One interesting thing is that NO such events had ever been observed in the Southern Hemisphere &#8211; because the polar vortex is so strong, and planetary wave activity is weaker in the south than the north (less land down this way). But, a spectacular SSW event happened in September 2002, unprecedented before or since. What that signifies, who can say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, thanks for those links. Plenty of reading to do.

I have asked a few people about the polar vortex split, but haven&#039;t got much back yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, thanks for those links. Plenty of reading to do.</p>
<p>I have asked a few people about the polar vortex split, but haven&#8217;t got much back yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/fractured-air/comment-page-1/#comment-4701</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to note that the weather effects anticipated in the Climate Dynamics paper linked at the end of the post are also part of the poleward circulation shift.  So it sounds as if the implication for Scotland e.g. may be better weather overall but with nasty winter outbreaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to note that the weather effects anticipated in the Climate Dynamics paper linked at the end of the post are also part of the poleward circulation shift.  So it sounds as if the implication for Scotland e.g. may be better weather overall but with nasty winter outbreaks.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/fractured-air/comment-page-1/#comment-4700</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to some second-hand information I&#039;ve seen, the split seems to be unique in the satellite record (@ 30 years).

A paper from a few months ago (discussed in some detail &lt;a href=&quot;http://solveclimate.com/blog/20081212/remarkable-change-arctic-atmospheric-circulation-have-we-passed-tipping-point?referer=sphere_search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) describes a recent marked shift in Arctic winter weather patterns, with (wait for it) the vortex being disrupted by warm air intrusions.  Just such a warm air mass is mentioned in the NASA article as being critical to the recent vortex split.

I can&#039;t find a free copy of the paper to see all of the details, but I do wonder to what extent this change is related to the observed poleward shift in the climate zones and jets caused by the expansion of the tropics (&lt;a href=&quot;http://jisao.washington.edu/JISAO_admin/newsarchives/naturegeoscience_12-05-07_WideningOfTheTropicalBeltInAChangingClimate.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;review paper&lt;/a&gt;).  So far the Antarctic jet is the only element that hasn&#039;t gone anywhere, but I have a feeling it&#039;s just a matter of time.  Such changes play a critical role in the glacial cycles and could be key to a future global tipping point (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/reference/bibliography/2008/jrt0801.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt;). 

FYI on a related topic, this new &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~phuybers/Doc/seasons.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;paper&lt;/a&gt; notes a two day shift in the seasonal cycle.  As the phrase goes, this can&#039;t be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to some second-hand information I&#8217;ve seen, the split seems to be unique in the satellite record (@ 30 years).</p>
<p>A paper from a few months ago (discussed in some detail <a href="http://solveclimate.com/blog/20081212/remarkable-change-arctic-atmospheric-circulation-have-we-passed-tipping-point?referer=sphere_search" rel="nofollow">here</a>) describes a recent marked shift in Arctic winter weather patterns, with (wait for it) the vortex being disrupted by warm air intrusions.  Just such a warm air mass is mentioned in the NASA article as being critical to the recent vortex split.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find a free copy of the paper to see all of the details, but I do wonder to what extent this change is related to the observed poleward shift in the climate zones and jets caused by the expansion of the tropics (<a href="http://jisao.washington.edu/JISAO_admin/newsarchives/naturegeoscience_12-05-07_WideningOfTheTropicalBeltInAChangingClimate.pdf" rel="nofollow">review paper</a>).  So far the Antarctic jet is the only element that hasn&#8217;t gone anywhere, but I have a feeling it&#8217;s just a matter of time.  Such changes play a critical role in the glacial cycles and could be key to a future global tipping point (<a href="http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/reference/bibliography/2008/jrt0801.pdf" rel="nofollow">article</a>). </p>
<p>FYI on a related topic, this new <a href="http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~phuybers/Doc/seasons.pdf" rel="nofollow">paper</a> notes a two day shift in the seasonal cycle.  As the phrase goes, this can&#8217;t be good.</p>
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		<title>By: S2</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/fractured-air/comment-page-1/#comment-4607</link>
		<dc:creator>S2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Gareth. It is certainly interesting.

The weather has been odd up here. Not too bad where I live, since I&#039;m on the coast and that has a moderating effect, but 10 miles inland they had a fall of about 18 inches overnight last week. We&#039;ve also seen temperatures as low as -18C, which is on the chilly side.

For Northern Scotland neither is unusual - we had lower temperatures last winter and heavier snowfalls in 2005 - but it&#039;s rare to get both very low temperatures and heavy snow at the same time (at least it is here).  One of the local expressions is &quot;it&#039;s too cold for snow&quot;.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. At the NSIDC it looks like there hasn&#039;t been a lot of growth in sea ice extent in the last couple of weeks, but I guess that could be a coincidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Gareth. It is certainly interesting.</p>
<p>The weather has been odd up here. Not too bad where I live, since I&#8217;m on the coast and that has a moderating effect, but 10 miles inland they had a fall of about 18 inches overnight last week. We&#8217;ve also seen temperatures as low as -18C, which is on the chilly side.</p>
<p>For Northern Scotland neither is unusual &#8211; we had lower temperatures last winter and heavier snowfalls in 2005 &#8211; but it&#8217;s rare to get both very low temperatures and heavy snow at the same time (at least it is here).  One of the local expressions is &#8220;it&#8217;s too cold for snow&#8221;.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how this plays out. At the NSIDC it looks like there hasn&#8217;t been a lot of growth in sea ice extent in the last couple of weeks, but I guess that could be a coincidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/fractured-air/comment-page-1/#comment-4606</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s still very dark and cold up there. Spring will come with the sun, but how the polar vortex behaves/recovers will have an impact on NH weather patterns. One to watch...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s still very dark and cold up there. Spring will come with the sun, but how the polar vortex behaves/recovers will have an impact on NH weather patterns. One to watch&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TomG</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/fractured-air/comment-page-1/#comment-4599</link>
		<dc:creator>TomG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This temperature jump of 50C over the pole has me curious as to what its effect will be on the 2009 ice melt.
I realize the increased temperature is high in the atmosphere, but if these two air masses remain separated would this not jump start the spring and summer season in the far north?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This temperature jump of 50C over the pole has me curious as to what its effect will be on the 2009 ice melt.<br />
I realize the increased temperature is high in the atmosphere, but if these two air masses remain separated would this not jump start the spring and summer season in the far north?</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/fractured-air/comment-page-1/#comment-4565</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, Steve. My point was more general; that we both expect and observe change in Arctic weather patterns. But I would really like to know more about polar vortex behaviour in the past...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, Steve. My point was more general; that we both expect and observe change in Arctic weather patterns. But I would really like to know more about polar vortex behaviour in the past&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/fractured-air/comment-page-1/#comment-4564</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, this event seems quite distinct from the ones described in the paper:

&quot;A common feature of these weather types is that they form when cold air masses wander out from over the ice sheets over the warm ocean to be heated from below.  In the North Atlantic, such conditions arise frequently along the Gulf Stream and its northern branches.  The North-East Atlantic (the Greenland, Iceland, Norwegian and Barents Seas) is particularly prone to marine cold-air outbreaks (MCAOs), as they are referred to in the paper.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, this event seems quite distinct from the ones described in the paper:</p>
<p>&#8220;A common feature of these weather types is that they form when cold air masses wander out from over the ice sheets over the warm ocean to be heated from below.  In the North Atlantic, such conditions arise frequently along the Gulf Stream and its northern branches.  The North-East Atlantic (the Greenland, Iceland, Norwegian and Barents Seas) is particularly prone to marine cold-air outbreaks (MCAOs), as they are referred to in the paper.&#8221;</p>
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