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	<title>Comments on: Dominion Post editorial as shaky as Herald&#8217;s</title>
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		<title>By: Bryan Walker</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/dominion-post-editorial-as-shaky-as-heralds/#comment-14277</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that readers of Hot Topic who get the Dominion Post might consider inviting an editorial retraction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that readers of Hot Topic who get the Dominion Post might consider inviting an editorial retraction.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/dominion-post-editorial-as-shaky-as-heralds/#comment-14274</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the DP might get round it by, what, 2013?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the DP might get round it by, what, 2013?</p>
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		<title>By: cindy</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/dominion-post-editorial-as-shaky-as-heralds/#comment-14268</link>
		<dc:creator>cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>presumably one can now ask for the DomPost to make a retraction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>presumably one can now ask for the DomPost to make a retraction?</p>
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		<title>By: Amazongate closes on Sunday Times: Simon Lewis fights back â€” Hot Topic</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/dominion-post-editorial-as-shaky-as-heralds/#comment-11606</link>
		<dc:creator>Amazongate closes on Sunday Times: Simon Lewis fights back â€” Hot Topic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Leake and the Sunday Times got a lot of mileage out of his disgraceful Amazongate article, which I wrote about in February. It was pleasing to read yesterday in Climate Progress that tropical forest researcher [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Leake and the Sunday Times got a lot of mileage out of his disgraceful Amazongate article, which I wrote about in February. It was pleasing to read yesterday in Climate Progress that tropical forest researcher [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Samoht</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/dominion-post-editorial-as-shaky-as-heralds/#comment-10323</link>
		<dc:creator>Samoht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its amazing, annoying and actually deeply worrying how the strong wish to continue our exponential growth journey is driving denial. We are at the bottom of the 11 year solar cycle. Its worth about 7 years of CO2 increase at current rates to the GW potential. So when we reach the next top, in about 6 years, then today&#039;s shameful lambasting of the climate science community by the deniers camp will hopefully played back to them at nauseam. We live surely in wired times. The signs of human caused environmental degradation, AGW included, are everywhere and the current economic collapse is most likely a result of sane minds no longer believing in the continuation of exponential growth as we know it - which would be required to allow a continuation of our debt fueled economy. The AGW debate seems like the last battle of the die hard liberal capitalists who can not and will not accept that we have entered the time where we must begin to live inside of an sustainable footprint or bust. 
Blasting climate scientists for minor errors of judgment seems like a desperate attempt to delay the inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing, annoying and actually deeply worrying how the strong wish to continue our exponential growth journey is driving denial. We are at the bottom of the 11 year solar cycle. Its worth about 7 years of CO2 increase at current rates to the GW potential. So when we reach the next top, in about 6 years, then today&#8217;s shameful lambasting of the climate science community by the deniers camp will hopefully played back to them at nauseam. We live surely in wired times. The signs of human caused environmental degradation, AGW included, are everywhere and the current economic collapse is most likely a result of sane minds no longer believing in the continuation of exponential growth as we know it &#8211; which would be required to allow a continuation of our debt fueled economy. The AGW debate seems like the last battle of the die hard liberal capitalists who can not and will not accept that we have entered the time where we must begin to live inside of an sustainable footprint or bust.<br />
Blasting climate scientists for minor errors of judgment seems like a desperate attempt to delay the inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Walker</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/dominion-post-editorial-as-shaky-as-heralds/#comment-10319</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AGW-Denier, your lesjones graph simply expunges two of Hansen&#039;s scenarios.  Hansen provided three to try to cover various possible trajectories of emissions in the coming years.  Scenario A assumed a higher level of emissions than actually occurred.  Scenarios B and C assumed lower levels of emissions, closer to what in fact occurred, and his predictions were pretty good.  You can&#039;t see that on the lesjones graph because he has fraudulently removed scenarios B and C.  But there are plenty of places you can see it, as &lt;a href = &quot;http://www.logicalscience.com/skeptic_arguments/models-dont-work.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; here &lt;/a&gt; for instance.  

Incidentally, Hansen may have assisted Al Gore, but that is a very minor matter alongside his position as long-time Director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies.  You can view his CV and publications here: http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/HansenCV_200912.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AGW-Denier, your lesjones graph simply expunges two of Hansen&#8217;s scenarios.  Hansen provided three to try to cover various possible trajectories of emissions in the coming years.  Scenario A assumed a higher level of emissions than actually occurred.  Scenarios B and C assumed lower levels of emissions, closer to what in fact occurred, and his predictions were pretty good.  You can&#8217;t see that on the lesjones graph because he has fraudulently removed scenarios B and C.  But there are plenty of places you can see it, as <a href = "http://www.logicalscience.com/skeptic_arguments/models-dont-work.html" rel="nofollow"> here </a> for instance.  </p>
<p>Incidentally, Hansen may have assisted Al Gore, but that is a very minor matter alongside his position as long-time Director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies.  You can view his CV and publications here: <a href="http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/HansenCV_200912.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/HansenCV_200912.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: AGW-Denier</title>
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		<dc:creator>AGW-Denier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Science&quot; adviser Hansen&#039;s completely worthless predictions.

Here it is in a nutshell:
http://www.lesjones.com/www/images/posts/hansen-499x375.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Science&#8221; adviser Hansen&#8217;s completely worthless predictions.</p>
<p>Here it is in a nutshell:<br />
<a href="http://www.lesjones.com/www/images/posts/hansen-499x375.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.lesjones.com/www/images/posts/hansen-499&#215;375.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AGW-Denier, I can hardly believe you have produced Steve Wrathall to counter James Hansen.  &lt;a href =&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Hansen &lt;/a&gt; is a distinguished scientist, well regarded by his peers, an elected member of the US National Academy of Sciences.   Question his science if you wish, but do so by countering science, not by sneers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AGW-Denier, I can hardly believe you have produced Steve Wrathall to counter James Hansen.  <a href ="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen" rel="nofollow"> Hansen </a> is a distinguished scientist, well regarded by his peers, an elected member of the US National Academy of Sciences.   Question his science if you wish, but do so by countering science, not by sneers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bandersdad</title>
		<link>http://hot-topic.co.nz/dominion-post-editorial-as-shaky-as-heralds/#comment-10313</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandersdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And my own comments over the last few months about &quot;communication&quot;. There isn&#039;t any in either the deluge of corroborating information nor the &quot;contests between warring cultural factions&quot;. Ignore this area at your risk I suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And my own comments over the last few months about &#8220;communication&#8221;. There isn&#8217;t any in either the deluge of corroborating information nor the &#8220;contests between warring cultural factions&#8221;. Ignore this area at your risk I suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: AGW-Denier</title>
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		<dc:creator>AGW-Denier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes, James Hansen. Al Gore&#039;s &quot;science&quot; adviser. Excellent! But perhaps he should take up astrology or something because he&#039;d be a lot better at it considering his record of accuracy.

Here&#039;s James Hansen&#039;s worthless global warming predictions:

http://www.agmates.com/blog/2008/09/14/james-hansens-worthless-global-warming-predictions-video-of-the-day/

Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, James Hansen. Al Gore&#8217;s &#8220;science&#8221; adviser. Excellent! But perhaps he should take up astrology or something because he&#8217;d be a lot better at it considering his record of accuracy.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s James Hansen&#8217;s worthless global warming predictions:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.agmates.com/blog/2008/09/14/james-hansens-worthless-global-warming-predictions-video-of-the-day/" rel="nofollow">http://www.agmates.com/blog/2008/09/14/james-hansens-worthless-global-warming-predictions-video-of-the-day/</a></p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
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