Comments on: Climate cranks claim a scalp

By: Andrew H

Andrew H — Thu, 29 May 2008 01:35:38 +0000

Here’s a quote mine from Bryan Leyland (this just seemed like a good place to put it)

From the Dom Post on 28 May

“They [the government]are ignoring the risk and praying it won’t happen, which is irresponsible”.

Of course he is talking about serious risks here (like having your water heating turned off at peak electricity times).

But you have to appreciate the irony…..

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By: cindy

cindy — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:21:41 +0000

Robert

“keeping the issue in front of the public” unfortunately relies on our esteemed media, most of which (print) is largely owned by two companies. The editors of at least one of those esteemed publications recently published a full page of rubbish science… you know who she is!

In most of the publications, the environment round is handed to the latest cadet, and few, if any, have a dedicated science reporter. This is in stark contrast to media organisations elsewhere in the world.

I was at the climate negotiations in Bali and of the 2500 journalists there, NOT ONE of them was from a New Zealand media outlet.

There is a coalition called the Climate Defence Network which works mostly on policy. There are a number of individuals, but not the Al Gore type.

Probably the most prominent person in the whole climate movement here is Jeanette Fitzsimmons.

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By: gareth

gareth — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:12:02 +0000

There are a few, Robert, but I couldn’t name them…

I do my best

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By: Robert McLachlan

Robert McLachlan — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:00:52 +0000

Incidentally, who are the leading climate change activists in New Zealand? Do we have anyone with the public profile (relative to NZ, of course) of Gore, Monbiot, or even Lovelock making sure that this issue is constantly in front of the public? In the TED video of Al Gore he mentioned 250 people taking a roadshow (I presume his one) around Australia before their election. Is anyone planning anything like that here?

Robert

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By: Doug Mackie

Doug Mackie — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:50:41 +0000

Reminds me,

Bryan: Your opinion of Beck? “Don’t know” is not good enough. If you don’t have enough science to say one way or the other then how is it you understand enough to dismiss so much real climate science? (see what I did there?)

Why not ask a real scientist about Beck and post their response?

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By: gareth

gareth — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:20:15 +0000

I doubt that Bryan will feel able to comment until the “party line” has been established.

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By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:39:43 +0000

Philip, one glacier doesn’t prove anything, but the other stuff…

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By: cindy

cindy — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:20:31 +0000

mr leyland being that climate scientist that he is, of course…

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By: Philip McConkey

Philip McConkey — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:49:26 +0000

I wonder what Mr.Leyland might have to say about recent scientists’ observations about the receding and potential disappearance of Tasman Glacier, or about the waters around the Antarctic becoming fresher – or even about Stern’s latest comments about the effects of global warming being even worse than he thought. I presume he will have his usual ‘everyone is out of step but me’ explanations.

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By: Stephen

Stephen — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:39:41 +0000

Owen, apologies for getting that wrong, I was under the impression that you had made a sort of natural progression to working on urban issues from your early work as an architect, so didn’t necessarily think you were going round designing people’s houses or anything.

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