Comments on: Censoring Science

By: Storms of My Grandchildren — Hot Topic

Storms of My Grandchildren — Hot Topic — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:03:00 +0000

[...] Science: Inside the Political Attack on Dr. James Hansen and the Truth of Global Warming, reviewed here. Some of this ground is traversed again here, and then Hansen offers readers the bad news that the [...]

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By: Sound of silence — Hot Topic

Sound of silence — Hot Topic — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:27:43 +0000

[...] work hard to avoid the suspicion that — in an echo of attempts by the Bush administration to muzzle Jim Hansen — management fired Salinger because he was refusing to be [...]

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By: Climate Code Red — Hot Topic

Climate Code Red — Hot Topic — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:07:50 +0000

[...] Bowen’s Censoring Science, recently reviewed on Hot Topic is obviously still [...]

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By: jonno

jonno — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:37:00 +0000

It already has…

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By: Ayrdale

Ayrdale — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:30:25 +0000

Time will tell…

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By: jonno

jonno — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:27:40 +0000

What invigorates me and keeps me going is that you, Ayrdale and others like you, like claiming this. Yet, any ‘evidence’ you bring to the table has already been disproven. Is you (I doubt you or Chris can) bring any new evidence to the table, and then you may be right. The ironic thing is, it is your so called evidence that has holes in it.

That is my point, and it’s self evident.

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By: Ayrdale

Ayrdale — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:16:02 +0000

Thank you I’ve had a look at those.
What impresses me most in the thread of WattsupWithThat are the comments and debate.
What invigorates me and keeps me going is that you Bryan and others on this site are dogmatic and convinced that the debate is over, when any interested person can see, read and hear that it plainly is not over.
Chris de Freitas and many hundreds of other scientists continue to punch holes in the mantra that rising atmospheric CO2 causes rising global temperatures.
Scientific studies underway right now will continue to enlarge our knowledge (I refer to ARGOS, the Ibuki satellite and the CERN Cloud studies as 3 of many) and the results from these will aid our understanding of climate mechanisms.
With developing knowledge we can make progress. We certainly can’t make any progress as a nation or a species by claiming the issue is settled, and the debate finished.
That is my point, and it’s self evident.

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By: Bryan Walker

Bryan Walker — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:27:56 +0000

Ayrdale, your “wonderful” wattsupwiththat thread is about a NASA scientist John Theon who retired 15 years ago and was never Hansen’s boss. Have a look at a couple of Gavin Schmidt’s comments on Real Climate – it won’t take long:
http://www.realclimate.org/ind.....ent-110819
http://www.realclimate.org/ind.....ent-110917

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By: Gareth

Gareth — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:55:41 +0000

Can I just point out that Spencer & Weart is actually just the one man, Spencer Weart, director of the Center for History of Physics of the American Institute of Physics.

Ayrdale: your sources explain a lot. You need to read a little more widely, and stop assuming that anything you disagree with is a priori wrong.

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By: jonno

jonno — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:46:30 +0000

“Put him on TV, with an opponent and an impartial moderator and let the public decide.”

Rubbish! What is wrong with the peer review process? Do your really think the ‘public’ can understand the complex science of climate change. Obviously, you don’t and you claim to do some ‘research’.

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