Comments on: Blueprint for a global deal http://hot-topic.co.nz/blueprint-for-a-global-deal/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=blueprint-for-a-global-deal Global warming and the future of New Zealand Mon, 21 May 2012 11:17:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Facing the Chaos of Climate Change | CleanTechies Blog - CleanTechies.com http://hot-topic.co.nz/blueprint-for-a-global-deal/#comment-26463 Facing the Chaos of Climate Change | CleanTechies Blog - CleanTechies.com Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:31:16 +0000 http://hot-topic.co.nz/?p=2104#comment-26463 [...] and of poverty. I frequently thought while reading his book of economist Nicholas Stern whose own book makes it clear from the start that combating climate change is inextricably linked with poverty [...] [...] and of poverty. I frequently thought while reading his book of economist Nicholas Stern whose own book makes it clear from the start that combating climate change is inextricably linked with poverty [...]

]]> By: Oxfam: poor countries need funds to adapt | Hot Topic http://hot-topic.co.nz/blueprint-for-a-global-deal/#comment-7226 Oxfam: poor countries need funds to adapt | Hot Topic Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:58:42 +0000 http://hot-topic.co.nz/?p=2104#comment-7226 [...] are going to need. Nicholas Stern devoted con­sid­er­able atten­tion to this ques­tion in The Global Deal, where he called for fund­ing from the rich coun­tries addi­tional to their nor­mal aid [...] [...] are going to need. Nicholas Stern devoted con­sid­er­able atten­tion to this ques­tion in The Global Deal, where he called for fund­ing from the rich coun­tries addi­tional to their nor­mal aid [...]

]]> By: Oxfam: poor countries need funds to adapt — Hot Topic http://hot-topic.co.nz/blueprint-for-a-global-deal/#comment-6943 Oxfam: poor countries need funds to adapt — Hot Topic Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:06:17 +0000 http://hot-topic.co.nz/?p=2104#comment-6943 [...] measures they are going to need. Nicholas Stern devoted considerable attention to this question in The Global Deal, where he called for funding from the rich countries additional to their normal aid commitments [...] [...] measures they are going to need. Nicholas Stern devoted considerable attention to this question in The Global Deal, where he called for funding from the rich countries additional to their normal aid commitments [...]

]]> By: Stern words in Beijing — Hot Topic http://hot-topic.co.nz/blueprint-for-a-global-deal/#comment-6882 Stern words in Beijing — Hot Topic Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:12:27 +0000 http://hot-topic.co.nz/?p=2104#comment-6882 [...] Nicholas Stern has been in the news again lately.  He spoke to students at the People’s University in Beijing on Friday with characteristic directness. He pointed out that although China is still a long way behind countries like the US and Australia in per capita emissions there are places in China where the picture is different. Thirteen Chinese provinces, regions and cities have higher per capita emissions than France. Six also overtake Britain. “There are many parts of China where emissions intensity and emissions per capita are looking much like some of the richer countries in Europe.” [...] [...] Nicholas Stern has been in the news again lately.  He spoke to students at the People’s University in Beijing on Friday with characteristic directness. He pointed out that although China is still a long way behind countries like the US and Australia in per capita emissions there are places in China where the picture is different. Thirteen Chinese provinces, regions and cities have higher per capita emissions than France. Six also overtake Britain. “There are many parts of China where emissions intensity and emissions per capita are looking much like some of the richer countries in Europe.” [...]

]]> By: Saving island lives — Hot Topic http://hot-topic.co.nz/blueprint-for-a-global-deal/#comment-6631 Saving island lives — Hot Topic Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:43:47 +0000 http://hot-topic.co.nz/?p=2104#comment-6631 [...] But adaptation measures are now urgent.  Some aid has already been given to such projects, for example, as the Kiribati Adaptation Programme, to which NZ is contributing $1.5m. The report acknowledges a range of such support, but notes that, like Australia, NZ has largely failed to commit new and sufficient funds for adaptation. Oxfam is clear that meeting adaptation measures by simply redirecting existing development aid is a cop-out and will not be acceptable to the developing nations, a point hammered home by Nicholas Stern in his book The Global Deal. [...] [...] But adaptation measures are now urgent.  Some aid has already been given to such projects, for example, as the Kiribati Adaptation Programme, to which NZ is contributing $1.5m. The report acknowledges a range of such support, but notes that, like Australia, NZ has largely failed to commit new and sufficient funds for adaptation. Oxfam is clear that meeting adaptation measures by simply redirecting existing development aid is a cop-out and will not be acceptable to the developing nations, a point hammered home by Nicholas Stern in his book The Global Deal. [...]

]]> By: Copenhagen 4: equity issues — Hot Topic http://hot-topic.co.nz/blueprint-for-a-global-deal/#comment-5836 Copenhagen 4: equity issues — Hot Topic Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:24:40 +0000 http://hot-topic.co.nz/?p=2104#comment-5836 [...] The section concludes that equity issues pervade virtually all aspects of the climate change challenge. The twin challenges of the 21st century –- avoiding dangerous climate change and poverty alleviation –- should and can be tackled together. This sentence echoes Nicholas Stern’s affirmation in his recent book. [...] [...] The section concludes that equity issues pervade virtually all aspects of the climate change challenge. The twin challenges of the 21st century –- avoiding dangerous climate change and poverty alleviation –- should and can be tackled together. This sentence echoes Nicholas Stern’s affirmation in his recent book. [...]

]]> By: Steve Bloom http://hot-topic.co.nz/blueprint-for-a-global-deal/#comment-5734 Steve Bloom Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:51:16 +0000 http://hot-topic.co.nz/?p=2104#comment-5734 "Put lip stick on pig, but you still have a pig." As we discovered recently in the U.S., one can have a governor of Alaska instead. “Put lip stick on pig, but you still have a pig.”

As we discovered recently in the U.S., one can have a governor of Alaska instead.

]]> By: Gareth http://hot-topic.co.nz/blueprint-for-a-global-deal/#comment-5731 Gareth Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:02:55 +0000 http://hot-topic.co.nz/?p=2104#comment-5731 Well, the problem, R2, is that when we do look into "this stuff", it's all too apparent that it's nonsense. That's why it's OT. Let's keep it that way, please. Well, the problem, R2, is that when we do look into “this stuff”, it’s all too apparent that it’s nonsense.

That’s why it’s OT. Let’s keep it that way, please.

]]> By: R2D2 http://hot-topic.co.nz/blueprint-for-a-global-deal/#comment-5729 R2D2 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:18:42 +0000 http://hot-topic.co.nz/?p=2104#comment-5729 OK, I had left this as I was told it was off topic, but as comments have been allowed to stand I guess that has been dropped. Samv: A global tax to me implies that global government already exists. Do we really need another huge bureaucracy? Password1: Its 53 pages, not 200. Its an outline of the main negotiating numbers. It is highly likely some kind of fund will be set up (was it not agreed at Poznan?). There is plenty that is not in the text, for example rule changes on LULUCF. Andrew H: OECD GDP = 39,889 T US dollars . We are talking a 183 - 734 billion bureaucracy, it wont save you a cent (around about, OECD doesnt equal Annex 1 I know). Do you think having the EU means French people pay less for <i>national</i> government??? Don't count on it. This is wealth redistribution, its not going to provide you any service. If you want to increase your taxes by 2% to pay for welfare in the third world nations then 'vote' (we dont get a vote in the UNFCCC sorry) for this. But it wont do anything to change the climate, it is global socialism in disguise. Orwell and Machiavelli would be amazed. Even if you believe in this socialism the problem is what it will morph into. 0.5-2% of GDP will only be the start. Look at the EU, what starts as a trade block has taken sovereignty off nations inch by inch until soon there will be nothing left. Ireland turned down there Lisbon treaty but now they are going at it again. They will push and push until they get their way. .....Anyway enough from me.. get the feeling it is falling on deaf ears. Look into this stuff yourself PLEASE. Peace. OK, I had left this as I was told it was off topic, but as comments have been allowed to stand I guess that has been dropped.

Samv: A global tax to me implies that global government already exists. Do we really need another huge bureaucracy?

Password1: Its 53 pages, not 200. Its an outline of the main negotiating numbers. It is highly likely some kind of fund will be set up (was it not agreed at Poznan?). There is plenty that is not in the text, for example rule changes on LULUCF.

Andrew H: OECD GDP = 39,889 T US dollars . We are talking a 183 – 734 billion bureaucracy, it wont save you a cent (around about, OECD doesnt equal Annex 1 I know). Do you think having the EU means French people pay less for national government??? Don’t count on it. This is wealth redistribution, its not going to provide you any service.

If you want to increase your taxes by 2% to pay for welfare in the third world nations then ‘vote’ (we dont get a vote in the UNFCCC sorry) for this. But it wont do anything to change the climate, it is global socialism in disguise. Orwell and Machiavelli would be amazed.

Even if you believe in this socialism the problem is what it will morph into. 0.5-2% of GDP will only be the start. Look at the EU, what starts as a trade block has taken sovereignty off nations inch by inch until soon there will be nothing left. Ireland turned down there Lisbon treaty but now they are going at it again. They will push and push until they get their way. …..Anyway enough from me.. get the feeling it is falling on deaf ears. Look into this stuff yourself PLEASE. Peace.

]]> By: AndrewH http://hot-topic.co.nz/blueprint-for-a-global-deal/#comment-5725 AndrewH Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:12:39 +0000 http://hot-topic.co.nz/?p=2104#comment-5725 If the UNFCC can achieve world governance at a tax take of 0.5 - 2% then they can have my vote...sure beats the current regime! (with apologies for being OT) If the UNFCC can achieve world governance at a tax take of 0.5 – 2% then they can have my vote…sure beats the current regime!

(with apologies for being OT)

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